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Dave Nadler
April 5th 13, 11:42 PM
Easy to make and use, works well, see the update I posted here:
http://powerflarm.us/powerflarm-installation-notes/
Enjoy,
Best Regards, Dave
Richard[_9_]
April 6th 13, 01:51 AM
On Friday, April 5, 2013 3:42:45 PM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote:
> Easy to make and use, works well, see the update I posted here: http://powerflarm.us/powerflarm-installation-notes/ Enjoy, Best Regards, Dave
Quite a bit nicer and cleaner antenna installations at:
http://www.craggyaero.com/cables_&_antennas.htm
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
Sam Discusflyer[_2_]
April 6th 13, 02:41 AM
HI Richard,
That looks clean... it doesn't look like the dipole that comes with the
brick either...
1-what antenna is it?
2-how is it mounted under the covers? on plastic frame?
Any difference between it and the dipole?
Stephen S9
Sam Discusflyer[_2_]
April 6th 13, 02:49 AM
HI Richard,
That looks clean... it doesn't look like the dipole that comes with the
brick either...
1-what antenna is it?
2-how is it mounted under the covers? on plastic frame?
Any difference between it and the dipole?
Stephen S9
Ramy
April 6th 13, 09:19 AM
Sorry, but I wouldn't call any of the installations in these photos "nice". not even close. Effective yes, but nice? I am glad I don't have carbon in my nose and can get 4 miles average range according to Flarm range analyzer by mounting the antenna in the nose of my 27a. Otherwise I would have looked for other antenna solutions than the dipole solutions shown in these photos.
Even with the dipole, I bet sufficient range can be archived by hiding half of it below the glare shield.
Ramy
Steve Koerner
April 6th 13, 03:10 PM
Ramy,
That's exactly what I've thought. I would have put my Flarm antenna in the nose of my glider like you did except that space was already occupied by a transponder antenna. So, last fall I embarked on designing and modelling a dipole like antenna that is constructed of thin spring wire (visually unobstructive). It has a 4 element wire counterpoise that lives below the glare shield with a single vertical element above the glare shield. I'm using a small breakaway coaxial antenna which also comprises the mounting through the glareshield. I'm planning to attend the Perry contest so I should get data on how well it performs there.
I had in mind that I might manufacture this antenna as a commercial endeavor. However, when I disclosed the design to Flarm they had certain objections. The objection that I couldn't dismiss was that the Flarm radio circuit can be damaged by static discharge and the thin exposed element would increase that suseptibility.
Richard[_9_]
April 6th 13, 03:24 PM
On Friday, April 5, 2013 6:41:15 PM UTC-7, Sam Discusflyer wrote:
> HI Richard, That looks clean... it doesn't look like the dipole that comes with the brick either... 1-what antenna is it? 2-how is it mounted under the covers? on plastic frame? Any difference between it and the dipole? Stephen S9
Sam,
Three PowerFlarm antennas are shown:
http://www.craggyaero.com/cables_&_antennas.htm
All antennas fit to the panel cover with a bulkhead fitting then the antennas screw on to the fitting.
500103 1/4 wave rubber duck 3.4" with 6" ground plane 2' cable
500101 1/2 wave dipole 5" no ground plane required 2' cable
500102 1/2 wave rubber duck 2.3" with 6" ground plane 2' cable
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
Agree with Ramy.
Using the same method - documented by Peter Kelly - in the nose of the 27.. But looking for a good combination for antenna #2. Perhaps another dipole like in Pete Alexander's 29. Only one pole is visible above the glare shield and it just sits in a grommet which would let go in an emergency.
Jim
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
April 6th 13, 09:49 PM
On 4/6/2013 7:10 AM, Steve Koerner wrote:
> Ramy,
>
> That's exactly what I've thought. I would have put my Flarm antenna
> in the nose of my glider like you did except that space was already
> occupied by a transponder antenna. So, last fall I embarked on
> designing and modelling a dipole like antenna that is constructed of
> thin spring wire (visually unobstructive). It has a 4 element wire
> counterpoise that lives below the glare shield with a single vertical
> element above the glare shield. I'm using a small breakaway coaxial
> antenna which also comprises the mounting through the glareshield.
> I'm planning to attend the Perry contest so I should get data on how
> well it performs there.
>
> I had in mind that I might manufacture this antenna as a commercial
> endeavor. However, when I disclosed the design to Flarm they had
> certain objections. The objection that I couldn't dismiss was that
> the Flarm radio circuit can be damaged by static discharge and the
> thin exposed element would increase that suseptibility.
Perhaps a small ball on the end like a transponder antenna? Or is it the
exposed wire that is the problem? The "classic" Flarm seems to have a
plain wire antenna with a small button on top.
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